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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://phatmommy.com/2007/07/i-kinda-loathe-product-reviews/comment-page-1/#comment-74048</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 06:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all. First time here :)

Here&#039;s a question - if you talk about a product, be it web app or book, and you link to it using an affiliate link, is that in the same ethical territory as pay per post or paid reviews?

I&#039;m not sure where I stand on this issue. I actually like reviews on blogs when they are well written and by people who&#039;s opinion I trust. And, when I&#039;m talking about a site or a product I really do think is great, I will post a link to the site and put an affiliate code in it. Is that bad? Should they be &quot;disclosed&quot;? What about when you write a post to optimize google ads or SEO? Do you ever find yourself writing based on keywords you know(or hope) are good sellers?

A few years ago, anyone who posted google ads on their blogs or tried to earn money from them in any way was a sellout. How times have changed.

You know what REALLY freaks me out? BzzAgent. Now THAT is just messed up.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Latest blog post from Anne: &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinymine.com/mymoney/recycle-your-gadgets-for-cash/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Recycle Your Gadgets For Cash&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all. First time here <img src='http://phatmommy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a question &#8211; if you talk about a product, be it web app or book, and you link to it using an affiliate link, is that in the same ethical territory as pay per post or paid reviews?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure where I stand on this issue. I actually like reviews on blogs when they are well written and by people who&#8217;s opinion I trust. And, when I&#8217;m talking about a site or a product I really do think is great, I will post a link to the site and put an affiliate code in it. Is that bad? Should they be &#8220;disclosed&#8221;? What about when you write a post to optimize google ads or SEO? Do you ever find yourself writing based on keywords you know(or hope) are good sellers?</p>
<p>A few years ago, anyone who posted google ads on their blogs or tried to earn money from them in any way was a sellout. How times have changed.</p>
<p>You know what REALLY freaks me out? BzzAgent. Now THAT is just messed up.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Latest blog post from Anne: <a href="http://tinymine.com/mymoney/recycle-your-gadgets-for-cash/">Recycle Your Gadgets For Cash</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: JayMonster</title>
		<link>http://phatmommy.com/2007/07/i-kinda-loathe-product-reviews/comment-page-1/#comment-43379</link>
		<dc:creator>JayMonster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 03:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am of two minds on the subject.  I like actual reviews, that come from people I have come to trust their opinion or find that their opinions are close to mine (at least most of the time).  I find this a great thing to have rather than looking blindly at reviews from people I don&#039;t know at Amazon or epinons  or whatever.  I don&#039;t even care for sites such as PC Magazine (for computer stuff of course), because it has become apparent at how much they like a product corrolates with the number of ads in the magazine.  So yes I like having this resource.  I of course from time to time review things on my blog as well.  All products or places that I have used or visited or whatever with the same hope of providing insight.

On the other side of the coin, I hate Pay Per Post.  It may be the biggest farce on the Internet.  I have watched more than one blogger sell out their own opinions to hawk something in a post, presumably because that happens to be what is offering the most for a post at that momment.  There is nothing real about it, and have as a general rule stopped linking to anybody that offers PPP &quot;reviews&quot; or posts.  (And at one time, had a number of people mad at me over it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am of two minds on the subject.  I like actual reviews, that come from people I have come to trust their opinion or find that their opinions are close to mine (at least most of the time).  I find this a great thing to have rather than looking blindly at reviews from people I don&#8217;t know at Amazon or epinons  or whatever.  I don&#8217;t even care for sites such as PC Magazine (for computer stuff of course), because it has become apparent at how much they like a product corrolates with the number of ads in the magazine.  So yes I like having this resource.  I of course from time to time review things on my blog as well.  All products or places that I have used or visited or whatever with the same hope of providing insight.</p>
<p>On the other side of the coin, I hate Pay Per Post.  It may be the biggest farce on the Internet.  I have watched more than one blogger sell out their own opinions to hawk something in a post, presumably because that happens to be what is offering the most for a post at that momment.  There is nothing real about it, and have as a general rule stopped linking to anybody that offers PPP &#8220;reviews&#8221; or posts.  (And at one time, had a number of people mad at me over it).</p>
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		<title>By: Mama Luxe</title>
		<link>http://phatmommy.com/2007/07/i-kinda-loathe-product-reviews/comment-page-1/#comment-42712</link>
		<dc:creator>Mama Luxe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long ago I started a blog and received an offer out of the blue for a text ad on my sidebar.  I decided to take it since the company was legit and on topic.

Then when I became a mom, I started researching everything endlessly and sharing all that info with anyone who asked on bulletin boards, etc.

My friend suggested we start a review blog and so Mamanista was born.

My original intent was to save people the trouble of buying the wrong playard for them or some such...but then people started sending products for review.  My partner and I went back and forth on PPP and Advertorials briefly and then decided we did not like them.  It just did not feel right for us.  I don&#039;t give a positive review to something I do not like.

At the time, I did not realize how many great review blogs were already out there and probably would not have jumped in if I had known how glutted the market was.  I searched and looked, but it wasn&#039;t until I really started networking that I realized there were thousands...and dozens of really good ones.

As to why someone might read these--there is an element of trust.  Personally, I skip the PPP...but the ones that are genuine, I find more reliable than Amazon--as Izzy mentioned, Amazon reviews are suspect IMO.  If the review is positive, I wonder if it is a plant.  If it is negative, I wonder if the person is just brain dead and couldn&#039;t figure it out.

I agree that at some point it will all become noise, just like the Amazon reviews...but a few top ones will be left standing.  I think there are a couple of niches.  I really like the new Suburban Oblivion one for its &quot;everyday product&quot; reviews...not a lot of affiliate money in that, but I wish those ladies the best in getting tons of ads.  A lot of the best ones really gravitate towards the more expensive and unique items...and now I understand why!  Those are the companies that send products for review (Graco or Fisher Price just doesn&#039;t seem to do that the way an independent company might) and if you use an affiliate model, that&#039;s where the money is.

Anyway, great topic and one I spend a bit of time thinking about.

I enjoyed reading all the comments so far!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long ago I started a blog and received an offer out of the blue for a text ad on my sidebar.  I decided to take it since the company was legit and on topic.</p>
<p>Then when I became a mom, I started researching everything endlessly and sharing all that info with anyone who asked on bulletin boards, etc.</p>
<p>My friend suggested we start a review blog and so Mamanista was born.</p>
<p>My original intent was to save people the trouble of buying the wrong playard for them or some such&#8230;but then people started sending products for review.  My partner and I went back and forth on PPP and Advertorials briefly and then decided we did not like them.  It just did not feel right for us.  I don&#8217;t give a positive review to something I do not like.</p>
<p>At the time, I did not realize how many great review blogs were already out there and probably would not have jumped in if I had known how glutted the market was.  I searched and looked, but it wasn&#8217;t until I really started networking that I realized there were thousands&#8230;and dozens of really good ones.</p>
<p>As to why someone might read these&#8211;there is an element of trust.  Personally, I skip the PPP&#8230;but the ones that are genuine, I find more reliable than Amazon&#8211;as Izzy mentioned, Amazon reviews are suspect IMO.  If the review is positive, I wonder if it is a plant.  If it is negative, I wonder if the person is just brain dead and couldn&#8217;t figure it out.</p>
<p>I agree that at some point it will all become noise, just like the Amazon reviews&#8230;but a few top ones will be left standing.  I think there are a couple of niches.  I really like the new Suburban Oblivion one for its &#8220;everyday product&#8221; reviews&#8230;not a lot of affiliate money in that, but I wish those ladies the best in getting tons of ads.  A lot of the best ones really gravitate towards the more expensive and unique items&#8230;and now I understand why!  Those are the companies that send products for review (Graco or Fisher Price just doesn&#8217;t seem to do that the way an independent company might) and if you use an affiliate model, that&#8217;s where the money is.</p>
<p>Anyway, great topic and one I spend a bit of time thinking about.</p>
<p>I enjoyed reading all the comments so far!</p>
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		<title>By: Two Knives</title>
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		<dc:creator>Two Knives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post and discussion. I kinda really really loathe product reviews (no surprise to anyone who has read my blog). I actually had a conversation with a marketer who had just started tapping into the &quot;Mommy blogger&quot; potential. He was asking what it would take to get me to review a product (in this case, a new CD from a local musician). I kept telling him that I didn&#039;t think I was the right person to ask. Now I can let him know about Izzy&#039;s list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and discussion. I kinda really really loathe product reviews (no surprise to anyone who has read my blog). I actually had a conversation with a marketer who had just started tapping into the &#8220;Mommy blogger&#8221; potential. He was asking what it would take to get me to review a product (in this case, a new CD from a local musician). I kept telling him that I didn&#8217;t think I was the right person to ask. Now I can let him know about Izzy&#8217;s list.</p>
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		<title>By: SuburbanOblivion</title>
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		<dc:creator>SuburbanOblivion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 02:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, much appreciated :)

I understand your position, and I don&#039;t begrudge you your opinion. We started Suburban Reviews because Jen, Heather and I wanted to do a collaborative project that might actually be halfway useful. We love trying new products, and it&#039;s been exciting to have people report back saying &quot;I went out and bought this after reading your review, and I loved it too!&quot; We have gotten asked to do a couple of product reviews by different companies, and we do them, but they are treated as honestly as things we buy and try on our own. We do not under any circumstances take financial compensation for our reviews, and PPP or it&#039;s likes will never step their foul feet on our blogs, period. 

That said, the purpose of any blog is to gain readers, and I think we have managed to strike a pretty good balance between reviewing for the purpose of entertaining *and* getting information out there. It&#039;s fun for us, and if others get something out of it, great :) If not, they are free to move on. 

Good topic btw!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, much appreciated <img src='http://phatmommy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I understand your position, and I don&#8217;t begrudge you your opinion. We started Suburban Reviews because Jen, Heather and I wanted to do a collaborative project that might actually be halfway useful. We love trying new products, and it&#8217;s been exciting to have people report back saying &#8220;I went out and bought this after reading your review, and I loved it too!&#8221; We have gotten asked to do a couple of product reviews by different companies, and we do them, but they are treated as honestly as things we buy and try on our own. We do not under any circumstances take financial compensation for our reviews, and PPP or it&#8217;s likes will never step their foul feet on our blogs, period. </p>
<p>That said, the purpose of any blog is to gain readers, and I think we have managed to strike a pretty good balance between reviewing for the purpose of entertaining *and* getting information out there. It&#8217;s fun for us, and if others get something out of it, great <img src='http://phatmommy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  If not, they are free to move on. </p>
<p>Good topic btw!</p>
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		<title>By: BrainBasedBusiness</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrainBasedBusiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 02:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alasandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alasandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 20:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy reading the opinions of my favourite bloggers.

I get lots of useful info from Mother Crone&#039;s Homeschool about curriculum.

That being said knowing a blogger is being paid to write a review, I take a more cynical look at what they say. If you are blogging about a product because you like it and want to share I appreciate it. I wouldn&#039;t read just a review blog though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy reading the opinions of my favourite bloggers.</p>
<p>I get lots of useful info from Mother Crone&#8217;s Homeschool about curriculum.</p>
<p>That being said knowing a blogger is being paid to write a review, I take a more cynical look at what they say. If you are blogging about a product because you like it and want to share I appreciate it. I wouldn&#8217;t read just a review blog though.</p>
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		<title>By: Erika, Plain Jane Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erika, Plain Jane Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone linked to in this post, I&#039;ve been trying to come up with a response. Honestly, I&#039;ve got nothing.

I guess if you don&#039;t like reviews then  be happy people are taking them out of their regular blogs? That way you don&#039;t have to be bothered by them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone linked to in this post, I&#8217;ve been trying to come up with a response. Honestly, I&#8217;ve got nothing.</p>
<p>I guess if you don&#8217;t like reviews then  be happy people are taking them out of their regular blogs? That way you don&#8217;t have to be bothered by them.</p>
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		<title>By: petite mommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>petite mommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all I enjoyed reading your thoughts on this matter as well as those of in the comments. 

I started one of the first review blogs quite a few months ago. I wanted to do reviews separate of my personal blog about products that I liked or didn&#039;t like. My intentions of starting this site was not to get free stuff. I never imagined really getting many products to review for free but I am enjoying the free stuff that I do get to try out and I hope I am providing good information to those out there searching for it. I get paid for advertisements but I certainly do not get paid for reviews. In addition, I offer contests, giveaways, previews, and product recall information on www.amomsreview.com  

I have done 1 post for payperpost on one site of mine..not my personal blog, however, and I only plan on doing things that fit with that site. 

I&#039;ve been a work at home mom online for nearly 4 years and I believe that if a mom that stays at home can make some extra money for her family via reviews, ppp, google or whatever other affiliate programs they choose to promote then they should if they enjoy it. It&#039;s a legitimate way to make some extra needed money and be at home with your kids. 

Additionally, I do read reviews, and like one of the commenters said above, people also get paid to do reviews on Amazon.com and I can vouch for that. 

I understand that reading and writing reviews are not for everyone just like so many other things. :)</description>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 07:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never begrudge anyone a way to earn a little money from something they enjoy, and so long as they are completely clear how they came upon the product, it has never bothered me, whether paid, in exchange for a free product or something they just picked up.

Especially if it is relevant.  

If PPP or whatever begins to take over the blog, however, I&#039;m likely to unsubscribe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never begrudge anyone a way to earn a little money from something they enjoy, and so long as they are completely clear how they came upon the product, it has never bothered me, whether paid, in exchange for a free product or something they just picked up.</p>
<p>Especially if it is relevant.  </p>
<p>If PPP or whatever begins to take over the blog, however, I&#8217;m likely to unsubscribe.</p>
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